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Discussion #5

1. What is Krukowski’s main point about how we experience time in the “real” world versus are experiences with “digital” time? Why are these differences significant?

Krukowski’s main point about how we experience time in the “real” world versus our experiences with “digital” time is that digital time is fabricated by humans and controlled. Digital time is nothing more than an agreed-upon time in which every person follows.  “Real” time, however, is relative to every person based on the moment they are in, and how fast time is for them.

2. What does Krukowski mean when he says that listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space?

When Krukowski says that listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space, he refers to our sense of sound as a way of discovering our location. Like bats. we could use sound to track our movement, and how far we are from a certain sound, and which direction it is heading in.

EPISODE: 2

3. In the interview at the beginning of the episode, Jeremiah Moss argues that developers in Astor Place are “privatizing public space in a very stealth way.” What does he mean by this? What does Moss say about the distinction between public and private space, and why is it important?

In the interview at the beginning of the episode, Jeremiah Moss argues that developers in Astor Place are “privatizing public space in a very stealth way.” He refers to the safe spaces people have created themselves by using their phones and listening to music as they’re walking through public space. However, this has transformed these places from the public to private, with rules set by private companies.

4. What is the significance of Emily Thompson’s idea that the development of concert halls arose from desires to “control interior spaces”? How is this desire, according to Krukowski, related to earbuds and headphones?

The significance of Emily Thompson’s idea that the development of concert halls arose from desires to “control interior spaces” refers to the plethora of noise pollution outside, from car engines, trains, construction, etc. This has led to the likability of earbuds and headphones, which create private spaces for people inside their heads.

5. In your own opinion, what are the key ideas from this episode about the relationship between sound and space? What strikes you as interesting about the ways that sound influences our experience of space.

To me, this was very interesting, because for so long I have taken these two senses for granted when in reality, they are a very important factor in how I navigate around this world. The next time I’m outside, ill be sure to leave the headphones at home.

Discussion question #5

  1. What is Krukowski’s main point about how we experience time in the “real” world versus are experiences with “digital” time? Why are these differences significant?Real time is what we live and experience in our lives. Each moment has a meaning and we feel it in us. Instead the digital time is elaborated, because in a recording studio you can play with the time of a sound or a recording, even something can be undone. These differences are important because it does not recognize how the experience that real time gives is lost in digital time.
  2. What does Krukowski mean when he says that listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space?Through the sounds we can realize where we are, in other words we can discover a location by the sounds that we perceive and relate them in our minds. But it also depends a lot on the relationship that we have with the sound, because we can be walking listening to music but if we like this music, our mind will be focused on the sound but not on the walk nor will it remember the surroundings where it was.
  3. In the interview at the beginning of the episode, Jeremiah Moss argues that developers in Astor Place are “privatizing public space in a very stealth way.” What does he mean by this? What does Moss say about the distinction between public and private space, and why is it important?He means that companies like Astros Place use delicate and strategic ways to avoid attracting attention when they invade public spaces, as they include improvements to the place but with rules implemented to the public place. Jeremiah says that a public place is a space where people can express themselves freely without expecting to follow rules established by certain authorities. This is important because it worries that people do not realize that many companies invade the public space because many times they are concerned about other matters and lose themselves in the change that is happening around us.
  4. What is the significance of Emily Thompson’s idea that the development of concert halls arose from desires to “control interior spaces”? How is this desire, according to Krukowski, related to earbuds and headphones? As the noise in the city increased by the construction of new spaces and means of transport, the sound of trains, people were uncomfortable with all the sound that was beginning to be created, they felt that they lost their tranquility and wanted places free of that frustrating noise that is why the idea of controlling noise was born, then concert halls were created where they would enjoy sound. According to Krukowski, the idea of creating headphones is the desire of people to create their own space where they avoid external noise.
  5. In your own opinion, what are the key ideas from this episode about the relationship between sound and space? What strikes you as interesting about the ways that sound influences our experience of space?. The sounds allow to create different spaces from the real one because often in the city people avoid noise using headphones, they listen to their music transporting themselves to a different environment and they disconnect from reality and from the experiences that real time can provide.

Blog post 4

We live in a city where there is noise and crowd most of the time. However, there are also times and places which offer us a relaxing sound of nature. Most people refer to nature as silent but it also offers an spontaneous sound of the air blowing through the trees or a beautiful concert of the birds which are around us. I am a fan of what nature has to give us. I enjoy the simplicity of the rain falling on the ground and see how the flowers, trees and birds take advantage of that. As other people use headphones to relax or distract themselves from the outside world, I do the opposite as them to obtain the same benefits. I feel is stressful sometimes to wear headphones all the time. Is more acceptable to use headphones or earbuds on the train not to listen to the noise of the train and people around us but it is also more relaxing to me to walk or sit somewhere like at the park and look at what is around me.

Discussion question 5

Episode 1

  1. What is Krukowski’s main point about how we experience time in the “real” world versus are experiences with “digital” time? Why are these differences significant?

Real world time is the time we live, our present is our time. Attach to the clock which indicated the time as our everyday current time. Digital time is variable and flexible. On a digital studio, time is used to re-do, re-shape sounds, rhythms, etc. “time is experience, not counted like a clock” meaning that what we hear influences on time even thought we still see twelve hours on the clock. Digital time is how a song, instrument or voices speeds up or slow down on performance or a recording.

  1. What does Krukowski mean when he says that listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space?

I think that what we listen influences the way we see our surrounding and/or people around us. For example, if we are in the subway with our headphones on listening to our favorite song, we may not notice all the dirt, mice and trash that could be around us. However, this is not 100% true. But if we go in the subway, without music and all we hear is the noise of the train approaching and people around you will look more closely at your surroundings, you will be more tend to notice what is going on around you.

Episode 2

  1. In the interview at the beginning of the episode, Jeremiah Moss argues that developers in Astor Place are “privatizing public space in a very stealth way.” What does he mean by this? What does Moss say about the distinction between public and private space, and why is it important?

“privatizing public space in a very stealth way.” To my understanding he means that public spaces are being legally stolen. Moss refers to the example of a public spaces which was privatize by installing tables and umbrellas for people to seat and prohibit activities such as skate boarding. It was converted in a private space, even thought everyone is still allowed to enter the plaza, there are security guards to make sure rules are being follow.

  1. What is the significance of Emily Thompson’s idea that the development of concert halls arose from desires to “control interior spaces”? How is this desire, according to Krukowski, related to earbuds and headphones?

Control interior spaces which controls what we hear. Interior spaces where you can only hear whatever is in there, no sound from outside. It can be compared to the use of earbuds and headphones because you totally disconnect from the outside world. You do not hear people around you yell at you maybe because you are walking too slow or because you are on their way. As the silent in Radio city without performance, earbuds can give you the silent you need. You do not hear noise around you but only what you want to hear.

  1. In your own opinion, what are the key ideas from this episode about the relationship between sound and space? What strikes you as interesting about the ways that sound influences our experience of space

I think that people always want their space, whether they are in a private or public space people are using headphones or earbuds most of the time. People like to disconnect from the exterior world and just be themselves for a moment. I found it interesting how sound can influence on us. Lets say if we go in the park just to relax and hear the sound of nature but there is a person with a speaker and a loud music then the experience you were looking for has been interrupted by that particular person.

Discussion Questions #5

Question 1.  In Ways of Hearing episode 1, Krukowski indicates that time experienced in the real world is lived time, just as we experience it in the analog world.  It is experienced and not counted like a clock, and that experience is variable, always changing and flexible.  This is illustrated simply with how long something seems to take when it is not pleasant, as opposed  to how quickly it goes by when you are having fun.   Digital time on the other hand is not lived time, it’s machine time that is locked to a clock.  This time code makes everything more regular than lived time and as a result of this we give up our opportunity to experience time together because we are no longer experiencing each other’s unique timing as it happens in the moment.  Another result of digital time is something called latency, a delay between the actual moment and when we hear it.  This is caused by the time it takes to translate digital info to sound as well as the travel time through the various pieces of equipment.

Question 2. What Krukowski means when says listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space is that what we hear plays a big role in what we are aware of regarding our surroundings and how we travel through them.  He says specifically is that, we use our stereo hearing to locate sounds around us and to map where we are in relation to the source of these sounds.  If you limit your hearing with ear plugs or ear buds, you will be less aware of the space around you as well as the people.

Question 3. What Jeremiah Moss means by, privatizing public space in a very stealthy way, is that even though it is still technically a public space the city designated it as a pedestrian plaza, which allowed them to close off the street and create some rules.  It also resulted in the plaza having tables with umbrellas along with many big chain stores on the street level, completely different from when it was an actual completely public place.  Mr. Moss also indicates that people who are looking at their phone screens are basically attempting to be in a private place, a sort of bubble, while still being in a public place.  He indicates that this means they are opting out of street life and in a way the public has been triumphed over by the private.

Question 4.  According to Emily Thompson, as technology advanced in the 1920’s in what was known as a very loud decade, a desire to control sound in interior spaces resulted.  The goal of this control was to be able to hear exactly what someone wanted to hear and nothing else.  This was especially evident in the development of concert halls at the time, most notably Radio City Music Hall.  The hall was designed to be absorptive with the intention of limiting reverberation as much as possible.  In addition  the stage was completely mic’d with the sound being transmitted by speakers located throughout the hall.  The intended outcome of this design was that only what was being heard on stage was to be heard by the guests in the hall.  Basically exactly what people wanted  to hear, or paid to hear, and nothing else.  According to Krukowski, this desire to hear what and when we want, like in Radio City, is much like when we put on our earbuds.  We create our own internal refuge and drown out the outside world.

Question 5.  For me the key ideas in this episode about the relationship between space and time is how much sound influences our awareness of our surroundings, or space, and how much we as a society try to control that space through the manipulation of sound.  This episode also made me realize how much people today want to live in their own bubble, their own sound bubble, and why it is we want to do it.  I, for one, am very guilty of it and while Mr. Moss was describing how much it infuriates him, it had the opposite effect on me.  I found myself saying, yeah that’s right, let me and everyone else who finds serenity in that manner, continue to do so, because, for me, it’s the only way to stay sane in this extremely loud city.  But the most interesting thing to me about this episode was the degree to which sound impacts our awareness of space.  I always thought sight was the major factor and sound contributed very little, but apparently I was wrong.

Discussion Post #4

1. Advertising uses subtle psychological tricks to persuade you into purchasing their product. They target their audience by making their product seem desirable to everyone not just them and marking them as a luxury.

2. Paintings were a medium where artists could celebrate the life around them, and present their possessions. However, advertisements were not a medium where an artist could do the same. Instead, they became visualizations of the need and envy of the viewer.

3. Dreams are a good tactic to use in advertisements since that is essentially what they are selling. Ads sell the idea of the perfect dream life that comes along with the commercial. Therefore every purchase we make is an attempt towards the dream life.

discussion question #4

Q1.

Publicity purpose to each of us in us consumer society  that we can change out self or our lives by buying something more. This more publicity persuades  us and make us feel richer in some way richer even though we will be poorer by having spending our money. Publicity persuades us this transformation by showing us people who have apparently been transformed and one. In the result it envy people.

Q2.

Although oil painting and publicity are related to the same principle that you are what you have, however their purpose and effect is very different. Oil painting the owner reflect themselves and publicity is persuades  people to buy more.

Q3.

The skin dream, Models advertise a skin cream which will cure the acne showing an before and after image of using the cream, how it really cure but in reality those image were edited and the result of face is not because of the cream, it is acquired by make up. It persuaded  people to desire the result of that model has and fooled them to purchase it.

 

Discussion questions#4

Discussion question #4 

 

  1. It influences consumers because it presents a different reality, saying that if we acquire this product our life will be different, it also persuades dreams, or a way of life that we aspire to but still do not achieve.
  2. Because they show what oil painting is about, although it has some things in common the two project different realities. Which reveals the illusion that by consuming our lives it will be better, in addition it also treats problems such as the anxiety for money that allows you to achieve glamor and prestige. Even according to Berger, while a man has more possessions, his virality increases, this is one of the promises of advertising.
  3. For example, the dream of the skin many advertisementsuses the body of clean skins and dreams for sensitive consumers to buy clothes and lingerie that apparently will make her look more beautiful and happier. Also, the purchase of makeup or creams that give women an air of prestige and glamor. 

Discussion question 4

  1. According to Berger, advertisement persuade consumers they can transform themselves by buying something more. These models represent glamour and “the state of being envied” to make people acquired their products. These publicity images are different from the reality of their product but they show people what they want to see in order to sell their products.
  2. Oil painting shows an image as it is, it shows the real feeling of the artist, real possessions and mood in which this painting was made. However, publicity photograph sells something way different than the reality. Publicity as its definition, wants to get the attention from consumes in order to sell. It provides visual attraction to get the consumers attention.
  3. The concept of “the dream” makes us envy other for their possessions and also their money. Publicity make it look as if money magically appears to make us consume their products and look “glamorous”. The more a person consume the more enviable will be, the more power will posses. The use of this advertisement images manipulates consumers. An image of a women selling a face cream with a radiant skin will make other women consume their product because they envy her flawless skin.

discussion 4

 

 

  1. According to Berger, how do “publicity”–what we would call advertising–images influence consumers and why is this significant?

According to the Berger “publicity” proposes to each of us in a consumer society that we change ourselves or our lives by buying something more. Advertising  is the act of persuading and informing others of a more desirable way of life. It is the people  and the object within the images that we see that are purposefully placed with the desired consequence that we will  make a purchase to improve our lifestyle and become more desirable.

2. As he compares oil painting to publicity (advertising) photography, Berger argues that oil painting “showed what the owner was already enjoying among his possessions and way of life;” “it enhanced his view of himself as he already was.”  Whereas publicity pictures, “appeal to a way of life that we aspire to or think we aspire to.” Why are these differences important? What do they reveal to us about the production of images for publicity?

 Berger illustrates that publicity and oil painting use many of the same visual language and same ideals. He argues oil painting “showed what the owner was already enjoying among his possessions and way of life;” “it  enhanced his view of himself as he already was.” Whereas publicity pictures, “ appeal to a  way of life that we aspire to or think we aspire to.In the video Berger presented the differences of oil painting to publicity side by side  the oil painting showed what its owner was already enjoying among his possession and his way of life.  Oil painting is the possessions and way of  Life of the owner, his own value and it enhanced view of himself  as he already was it began  With facts which it didn’t take into account . oil painting shows the owner corresponds to  the condition of his own life. Moreover,oil painting, before anything else, was a celebration of private property. 

 On the other hand, Publicity images rely on viewers having a certain reaction. It is to make the spectator marginally dissatisfied with his present way of life. It convinces the buyer to buy a product to have a better life and gets some people before and after getting this product of whatever they are trying to sell and show how happy they become after buying this product. Publicity speaks in the future tense and yet the achievement of this future is endlessly deferred.

3. Choose one of the “dreams” he offers or think of your own. How does this dream offered by advertising use imagery to manipulate consumers?

Berger highlights that the publicity images always depict one of three dreams. “ The dream of late tonight you are part of good life they smile at they are part of the good life you smile it everyone is surrounded by what brings pleasure but it is you will bring the greatest pleasure and next morning you will still fee; the same about it. Such publicity works on the imagination but it does something else too because publicity pretends to interpret the world around us and to explain everything in its own terms. In this type of dream people  manifest their class level, prestige  and action. Moreover, it feels good around other people and their company. It feels pleasure and signs of love. Consequently, such dreams “ envied”  people to be the part of the glamour world and glamour lifestyle in which we live, the things we own and the things we wear all in which show this type of “glamour” or “envied” lifestyle. In today’s society what we see we believe. So, this kind of  materialistic life influences others’ lives to dream. Imagery such as dresses,style, alcohol, cigarettes etc help to sell  the product and if one does not show up or publicity the product then other will not achieve this type of dream. Without envy, there is no glamour.