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1.It used to be only one version and it is a context. That context was divided by a location like a church. Now it is possible to find many replications. The context can be shaped by anything surrounding any of the replications. Art books can focus on specific parts of the painting and do not show the whole thing. Before any replication could be made there was only one way to see a painting now there is a different meaning for every painting for everyone who sees it.

2.Unless you see a painting in person you will not be able to feel the true awe. A screen has flickering lights. It means that you will not be able to see the stillness that you would in person. A camera can move in or zoom around and they can even play music if you are watching on the TV. Even in a book you need to flip the page.

3.Replications can be seen in magazines, advertisements, newspapers or/and on the TV. We have to make sense of all of them in this context. In a way paintings have always been information, but in our modern world we have to understand everything in its specific context.

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Over few months, stuck in home and nothing much to do than listen to music and walk around neighborhood and do english class homework. Through digital the sound have  reached all over the world for example the above video is originated  from India and we here in USA can have access. As an fan of foreign music, digital have brought huge happiness in my life by having   access to all music around the world and able to  listen over and over.

In the music above they have use music and people dancing over it professionally wouldn’t be possible without digital media. Through digital media they were able to edit the song and didn’t required to do all over again. Hearing this music helps me avoid my loud neighbor and also helps avoid noise in street. Music also help me turn up the mood when you feeling tied.

Discussion Question #2

Viewing Questions

John Berger’s Ways of Seeing Episode 1

After you watch episode 1 of Ways of Seeing (or even while you are watching it), provide short answers to the questions below. 

  1.  One of the first points John Berger makes is that the act of seeing something is not as objective as we might at first think. Instead, he argues that what we see is conditioned by habits and conventions. What does Berger mean when he says that the process of seeing is not “natural,” that it is shaped by habits and conventions? What kinds of habits and conventions shape the ways we see and how do they do this? Why is this significant when we think about what artworks like paintings mean for viewers?
  • Berger means that’s we usually tent to look at art in think that everything that’s observing its natural, but our eyes can’t capture everything at one time, For example Like a Camera it can only capture a certain role/moment at a time. Our eye is the main to analyze something them send a note/message to our brain that keeps a note about an object we look at or even a movie that we tent to remember what happened after watching it. The artwork was really important in present and the past because like for example in religion they don’t have a camera at that time so they use artwork to spread and tell the stories that’s why we tend to know what happens after so many years because of artwork that can’t disappear.

2. According to Berger, how has the camera changed our senses of perception? How has this device changed our engagement with works of art? Conversely, Berger describes the experience of being in the presence of an authentic artwork–at a museum, for instance–in terms of “stillness” and “silence.” What does he mean by this? According to Berger, why is seeing an artwork in a museum different from seeing it on a screen or in a book?

  •  According to what Berger stated in the video painting and eye can only be analyzed at a time. But the camera can recreate the artwork or even customize it on your preference and can be able to show an artwork all over the work by the camera image. Like for example, he stated that the camera can reproduce the image that the camera capture such as rare act work that people can only visualize unperson. Seeing an original artwork in person can be more detailed because taking a picture and analyzing the picture won’t do justice, In order to experience the workmanship of a painting it has to be analyzed unperson to get the feeling on what the artist might want to express.

3. What does Berger mean when he describes reproductions of paintings becoming a “form of information?” Paraphrase what he means by his idea of “talking with reproductions.” What is the significance of this?

  • Berger means that reproduction of artwork destroys the original meaning of the painting for example in the video he stated that “National Gallery sells more reproduction of this Leonardo cartoon than of any other picture”, meaning people Tent to buy replica so they can hang it on their room that destroys the original meaning and the moment people admire looking at the painting unperson rather then getting a replica copy.

Discussion Question #2: Way Of Seeing Part 1

1. When Berger’s talks about seeing he states it’s not as simple as we might think which he certainly makes a good point. He states what we do see now is determined by habits and conventions which isn’t “natural”. He refers to the invention of the camera playing this role of changing the way we see now as things that weren’t possible to see in front of us can now be seen from anyplace for anywhere. Artworks can now be affected by our surroundings that can be seen on different screens,papers,magazines,etc which is surrounded by different objects,sounds. This is significant as the perspective of us viewers which we see these artworks for instance like paintings can be now altered and affected. We no longer have to travel see what was once considered an original in a single place as it now can reproduced to be seen from anyplace around the globe. The way viewers now perceptive an author artwork can vary very different from what the author intended it to be interpreted as.

2. In the opinion of Berger the camera has changed the way we perceive and engage with art, now seem to differ to us as we are affected by our surroundings that are familiar to use in our own lives in the location we are with people we may know. Artworks were often unique to a certain place like a church which would be part of the church history, which made up its interior and life of the building memory. Now such paintings and images from anywhere in the world which was unique to one certain place can be displayed from the comfort of your own house or any place familiar to you. The meaning no longer is attached to it’s original origin of where the painting is. By making it reproducible it’s abolished it’s unique original meanings and has multiplied other possible meanings.

Berger states that seeing an artwork on screen or in an book is different compared to seeing one in a museum since a screen and books are alike where they are never still. Such as when he demonstrates the paintings in the video with silence in my background I am not able to fully concentrate or grasp what the meaning or point the author of the painting was trying to create, neither would I have been with a book as I would be distracted by the other context within a book all of which can only be done with as within his own terms of “stillness” and “silence”.Thus such an experience can’t be experienced without being in front of the painting itself as it can’t be replicated.

Berger also makes a claim describing the experience of being in present of an authentic artwork at a museum which also can be described by his terms mentioned earlier but as well that a reproduction just doesn’t reflect it’s authenticity of of the original painting which is unique as they look different from screens or elsewhere, which can distort the image. The artwork isn’t anything alike in the world , is authentic and can be admired for it’s beauty for that reason alone.

3. Berger refers to the production of paintings as becoming a “form of information”. When he made this statement he meant to define These artworks can be manipulated in and used having and interpreted with a far more different meaning than what the author originally intended it to be. Making it to easy to manipulated and make argument and that could be very different meanings from their original meaning. The meaning of the image can change according to what comes before or after the image on screen like a television or perhaps a magazine or newspaper which can be used by anyone for any purposes. This is can be trouble if such purposes were nefarious.

Discussion Post #2

  1. Berger says the process of seeing is not “natural” but that it’s shaped by habits and conventions because every individual has a different perspective on how they see things. Like it said in the video the eye is like a narrow lighthouse going in. The eye can only see what is in front and depending on the person many habits can change the way they see things. Habits is an action an individual likes to do repetitively and this can lead to the way they perceive events or people. Conventions can be influenced by the specific event or character, items, etc. They shape the way we see things by the way it impacts on feels, mind, beliefs, likes or dislikes. This is significant because a viewers perspective had a lot to do with the way they think, feel and will say about an artwork. They can see it completely differently than what the painter intended to show and say.
  2. The camera changes our senses of perception depending on the way one sees things. Perception changes when there different colors, sizes, styles, angles and arrangements. The camera has changed our engagement with works of art by having a deeper intimacy with it. Photographers tend to express a lot of feelings through their photographs, the same with painters. They want to send a message of anger, sadness, happiness, etc. through every stroke or click. Berger uses the term “stillness” and “silence” to describe paintings because he’s trying to show that no painting can move like a TV. The picture stays the same without changing making it so eye-catching. But it’s silence can be easily manipulated when an individual looks or rearranges it, it loses its original meaning. Seeing artwork in a museum is different than seeing it in a book or TV because the authenticity of a painting isn’t the same anymore. You don’t fully see the painting like it’s meant to be, it changes when it’s seen elsewhere. You need to be right in front of it to get every inch and not a “reproduction” of one.
  3. Berger describes reproductions of paintings becoming a “form of information” because it’s become a way of spreading to people the desire of purchasing an original one. Doing this it loses its uniqueness. Talking with reproductions means the different ways someone sees and feels about the painting. A artwork becomes transmittable. 

Discussion Quentions #2

1. One of the first points John Berger makes is that the act of seeing something is not as objective as we might at first think. Instead, he argues that what we see is conditioned by habits and conventions. What does Berger mean when he says that the process of seeing is not “natural,” that it is shaped by habits and conventions? What kinds of habits and conventions shape the ways we see and how do they do this? Why is this significant when we think about what artworks like paintings mean for viewers?
When Berger says that the process of seeing is not “natural,” that it is shaped by habits and conventions, he meant people see incidents and objects through the logic filter. For example, if we put a purple filter in front of a camera, every photo we take with it would be purplish. Likely to this example, the way people see is affected by their emotions and thought at the moment.
2. According to Berger, how has the camera changed our senses of perception? How has this device changed our engagement with works of art? Conversely, Berger describes the experience of being in the presence of an authentic artwork–at a museum, for instance–in terms of “stillness” and “silence.” What does he mean by this? According to Berger, why is seeing an artwork in a museum different from seeing it on a screen or in a book?
The invention of the camera affected art in both beneficial and harmful ways. Before then, the only way to see those works of art was by visiting the museums and seeing them in real life. But with the cameras, we are able to see and have knowledge about them from all around the world. Although, cameras can not reflect the brush strokes, which show the artist’s emotion while painting, and we can’t get the meaning of the painting as well as in the museum.
3. What does Berger mean when he describes reproductions of paintings becoming a “form of information?” Paraphrase what he means by his idea of “talking with reproductions.” What is the significance of this?
Especially with the popularity of social media and usage of photoshop, everything can be a material for memes and advertisements, including art. So, the meanings of artworks become transmittable according to the topic of people using it.

Discussion question #2

  1. One of the first points John Berger makes is that the act of seeing something is not as objective as we might at first think. Instead, he argues that what we see is conditioned by habits and conventions. What does Berger mean when he says that the process of seeing is not “natural,” that it is shaped by habits and conventions? What kinds of habits and conventions shape the ways we see and how do they do this? Why is this significant when we think about what artworks like paintings mean for viewers?

Berger means when he says that the process of seeing is not “natural,” that it is shaped by habits and conventions because everyone has a different living environment and we judge under many circumstances such as affection of our social vision on us, relationships, our customs, and traditions. Everyone has their own thought. also, we can see in one painting maxed feeling between happiness and sadness at the same time, I think that based on the viewer’s attitude or behavior can impact how to see or feel toward the painting.

2. According to Berger, how has the camera changed our senses of perception? How has this device changed our engagement with works of art? Conversely, Berger describes the experience of being in the presence of an authentic artwork–at a museum, for instance–in terms of “stillness” and “silence.” What does he mean by this? According to Berger, why is seeing an artwork in a museum different from seeing it on a screen or in a book?

The camera changed our senses of perception because the camera can copy the painting but the camera can’t copy the detail s on the painting the painters draw their artwork with specific details that showed in the painting had meaning. seeing an artwork in a museum different from seeing it on a screen or in a book has a different feeling that made you focus on the painting detail. And also you visit the museum to feel and do see the painting. On the other hand, you didn’t pay attention to the painting on the screen or the book you only care about the reading. In addition, you take silent moments with a painting that made you feel the theme of the painting.   

3. What does Berger mean when he describes reproductions of paintings becoming a “form of information?” Paraphrase what he means by his idea of “talking with reproductions.” What is the significance of this?

Now Painting can be manipulated so easily by taking new forms with the new ideas through our situations the uses on social media to express ideas or comics. They edit and write a new message or a new idea no longer residers. Many paintings designs changed. That is a result of  that  meaning have become transmittable.”

   

John Berger’s Ways of Seeing Episode 1

The Icon, representative of God, had a deeper meaning long ago. In order to see it, and therefore be close to God, people had to travel to see it. The habit of making the pilgrimage gave the Icon great significance. The Icon is given a different kind of significance today, as the viewer can feel close to God while sitting in their home. I think this is part of what John Berger was trying to convey when he said “seeing is shaped by habit.”

Museums are designed to create a certain ambiance for viewing art. The art is also the focal point of a trip to the museum. A person gets up, takes public transport, and tours a museum to see it. The dedication and general feeling around seeing an authentic art piece can be dulled when seeing it is as simple as typing the title into Google. Additionally, when seeing art on a screen the viewer can’t zoom in and focus on specific parts of the art. They must trust the person operating the camera to get as much detail as possible. This is how seeing art in a museum is different form seeing it on a screen.

I think that when Berger refers to reproduction as a “form of information,” he is referring to the art as having a message to convey. I think this is why he also mentions them having to compete with other information “jostled together on the same page.” The idea of “talking with reproductions” is sort of lost on me and I’m not sure I understand it. I think this is the way that images can have a universal meaning? Like a red octagon means “stop” and a yellow triangle means “caution,” these images have stable meaning because they have been reproduced so many times.

John Berger means when he says the process of seeing its not natural is when you see painting and you just focus on one particular object or thing that strikes you but you don’t see the whole picture itself. The camera really helped us see the habits and convection the way we look at things because it help to see deeper what earth loos like. It is significant when we think about art work for viewers because it maybe hope or  escape and thinking bigger out of the box and making the happy.

The camera has changed our perception because it showing how the camera is seeing it and grabbing the details of how the earth is being used in it’s image. The camera changed our engagement with works of art because the it changed original paintings and how it being visualized. John Berger means when the painting is silence and still is that the drawings are popping up in its own image that people are amazed how the person of the painting was very still and precise on how they were able to draw this without any errors. the difference why seeing a artwork in the museum is different from seeing it in a screen or book because you don’t capture the real mood when you are actually seeing the painting in your eyes and you can look at the painting in greater details.

John Berger means when paintings become a form of information it is showing that the paintings is showing a significant i people that they want to copy the paintings the visually seen that intrigued  them. John Berger means when he says talking with reproductions is that he wants art to be visually used everywhere and how people will think or feel when they see it.

Way of seeing #1

  • When Berger said that the process of seeing is not “natural”, that it is shaped by habits and convention he mean the way we see everything around us is based on our reality and perspective. When we see an art our eyes and mind try to understand the meaning of art based on what we see in our daily life. our knowledge of our surrounding,  our age and experience of communication, the way we try to understand and acknowledge other perspective is the reason  the way we see and understand art. Our perspective on art also depend on how easily it is accessible to us. An art can have any kind of meaning but the way we interpret is based on our view on life not from the artist point of view.

 

  • Camera and reproduction have been shaping the way we see art. because of camera and reproduction all the famous painting is easily accessible in our daily life, also the perspective of these painting start to change in our life. for example when I was a kid there was re produce picture of “Mona Lisa” and “taj mahal” in our living room. i was growing up seeing these re produce picture everyday. To me they were part of my daily life. so the way I view these picture is different from the people who traveled to India or Paris to see them.  people who saw the original Mona Lisa they understood the beauty and authenticity of the painting, they tried to see what Leonardo da Vinci saw when he started to paint her, they try interpret what her mysterious expression meant. the version of Mona Lisa I saw growing in my house doesn’t have any details to capture or any mystery understand. The way my view shaped isn’t about understanding the famous painting it represented comfort of my childhood home.

 

  • Berger said the reproduce painting become a form of information. The way re produce picture use to convey massage or part of advertisement to see other product. They became open to interpret based on what we see before, after or next to the reproduce painting. we shape the meaning of a reproduce painting based on the way it presented to us.