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Discussion 5

1.What is Krukowski’s main point about how we experience time in the “real” world versus are experiences with “digital” time? Why are these differences significant?
The real time is experienced subjectively. On the other hand, digital time is not live time, it has latency. Real time gives us the chance of everyone sharing the same experience at the same time and digital time disconnects us from sharing experiences simultaneously. This disconnect is significant because it can have as a consequence solating us even more than we already are.

2. What does Krukowski mean when he says that listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space?
The sounds in an environment is what makes us aware of where we are. You can hear the ambulance siren in the streets, children play in the playground, friends listening to loud music celebrating the weekend, all of that information shows us where we are and where we are going.

3. In the interview at the beginning of the episode, Jeremiah Moss argues that developers in Astor Place are “privatizing public space in a very stealth way.” What does he mean by this? What does Moss say about the distinction between public and private space, and why is it important?
It is a public place. However, it is possible to see the private security guards walking around. It is supposed to be a place where people protest a place to show you freedron but now there are signs everywhere showing you what to do, because there are rules. That is significant because people now have less fredroom, they are losing their own place.

4. What is the significance of Emily Thompson’s idea that the development of concert halls arose from desires to “control interior spaces”? How is this desire, according to Krukowski, related to earbuds and headphones?
Concert Halls:
Control sound is about preventing sounds from echoing/propagating from the audience area. Making that the sound from the stage is heard everywhere and the sound of the audience is not heard. In other words, trying to copy outside nature that does not have echoes. Headphones are used as a protection to be away from other people, that is how we control our internal space.

5. In your own opinion, what are the key ideas from this episode about the relationship between sound and space? What strikes you as interesting about the ways that sound influences our experience of space.

I believe many people use the sounds as a form of protection to get around. Sounds can have influence over space giving us the opportunity to experience different kinds of feelings like happiness for the new parents watching their baby, sadness for the old guy sitting on the subway holding alcohol, annoyance with the sounds of traffic.

Discussion Post #5

Episode 1

  1. Krukowski tries to point out, when you experience “real” time you are actually hearing, feeling or touching in the exact time it’s happening unlike “digital” time. You experience an action called latency, it’s the amount of time it takes a computer to process something. These differences are significant because “real” time is lived in the actual present while “digital” time lives in a machine time locked to a clock coded and delayed.
  2. Krukowski expresses that to navigate space you need to listen to beyond what you hear. Separating every sound you hear in a busy city street makes you see how everyone is living a different life right Next to each other. Try not to block the sound out through other objects.

Episode 2

  1. Moss argues that developers have gentrified Astor Place into this open space for pedestrians to walk and walk freely but with rules to follow and with certain individuals looking over them. I’m a way they’re still being controlled. Private space is a location that has history, there’s a meaningful background unlike public where it’s open to all and now the meaning has become less. This is important because when there’s a significant location, person or object it stays important forever and one cherishes it.
  2. The significance of Thompson’s idea is that concert halls are meant to keep unwanted noise outside while maintaining the sounds of the music for only the audience and the audience not being able to be hear either. This related to headphone and earbuds because they are ment to block outside noises, while maintaining quite or wanted sounds.
  3. Some main ideas the episode expressed was the significance on how one object can influence our space negatively and/ or positively. Headphones can be a big distraction from the word. Like Moss says “it makes us opt out of the word”. It also expresses the long lasting relationship music has with a space. I find it interesting and agree with the concept of sound influencing a space. When one builds memories in a space they forever remember because of the impact of emotion the sounds gives it. Now everytime one goes back to a space they can feel and remember what once was.

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Badshah – Genda Phool | JacquelineFernandez | Payal Dev | Official Music Video 2020

Hitmaker Badshah redefining his sound scape with “Genda Phool” , featuring super gorgeous Jacqueline Fernandez and Payal Dev on lead vocals. Genda Phool is a…

Over few months, stuck in home and nothing much to do than listen to music and walk around neighborhood and do english class homework. Through digital the sound have  reached all over the world for example the above video is originated  from India and we here in USA can have access. As an fan of foreign music, digital have brought huge happiness in my life by having   access to all music around the world and able to  listen over and over.

In the music above they have use music and people dancing over it professionally wouldn’t be possible without digital media. Through digital media they were able to edit the song and didn’t required to do all over again. Hearing this music helps me avoid my loud neighbor and also helps avoid noise in street. Music also help me turn up the mood when you feeling tied.

Discussion questiona5&6

Episode 5

  1. At the beginning of this episode, Krukowski asserts, “the marginal-the rejected-the repressed-is whatever the powerful have decided is of no use at the moment.” What does he mean by this statement? He goes on to ask, “But might it [the marginal-the rejected-the repressed] not be a key to alternate approaches-to art, to society-to power itself?” (“Marginalized” is an adjective that describes a person, group, or concept that is treated as insignificant or peripheral.)

 

What is he trying to get at with this question? How does music indicate the differences between the powerful and the marginalized?

 

1: In the beginning of the episode when Kruwoski says” the marginal-the rejected-the repressed-is whatever the powerful have decided is of no use at the moment.” He means that music isn’t being appreciated through CDs anymore. Everything is so advanced now that everyone downloads music instead of going to music store and buying it. The CDs and tapes are being less appreciated.

  1. How are the music listening experiences enabled by Forced Exposure different from those that Paul Lamere is working on with platforms like Spotify?

 

2: Music listening experiences from the Forced Exposure are different from listening to Spotify because during the forced exposure listening moments  they had the opportunity to listen to all the music they could and if you wanted to contact the artist there would be a long wait. Fast forward to modern days with Spotify, you can have your music chosen for you. Spotify can direct you to music according to your mood, contacts etc. Spotify has a variety of music and there is no way you can listen to every song on Spotify.

  1. What distinctions does Krukowski draw between being “surprised” by music and “discovering” music? What are the differences between these experiences and according to Krukowski, why are they important?

 

3: When you hear new music you’ve never heard before you are surprised by the things that your hearing. When your surprised its nothing that you expected. On the other hand, when you’re discovering music your expecting what you’re looking for. This is important because you are using these tools to gain more of an understanding to music.

 

Episode 6

  1. According to Krukowski, what is noise? What is signal? Why are these distinctions important?

 

1: Krukowski describes noise as the thing we are listening to in the background. For an example when you’re listening to two things at one time one becomes the signal and one is the noise. The noise being the sound in the background and the signal being the sound that has your attention. Your brain is more focused on the signal while your listening to the noise but not so much.

  1. What central idea about noise does this episode convey? Why is it significant?

 

2: Noise and signal are important to our everyday life. You can hear up to millions of different signals and noises, noises are the sounds you hear in the background. Signal being the sound you’re hearing first and paying the most attention to. Producers and musicians make music with signal being louder sound then the noise.

 

  1. How does this episode relate to other episodes?

 

3:  Episode six was based on noise, which Krukowski described as the unwanted sound in the background.  The author uses podcast to explain to listeners the importance of each episode. Listening to different noises and signals is apart of our everyday life, the author wants us to understand sound noise and signals. Throughout the podcast we listened to him speak about listening and understanding music. Music has noises and signals and that’s how this episode relates to the others.

Discussion 5 and 6 Question

Episode 5

  1. At the beginning of this episode, Krukowski asserts, “the marginal-the rejected-the repressed-is whatever the powerful have decided is of no use at the moment.” What does he mean by this statement? He goes on to ask, “But might it [the marginal-the rejected-the repressed] not be a key to alternate approaches-to art, to society-to power itself?” (“Marginalized” is an adjective that describes a person, group, or concept that is treated as insignificant or peripheral.)

 

What is he trying to get at with this question? How does music indicate the differences between the powerful and the marginalized?

 

1: In the beginning of the episode when Kruwoski says” the marginal-the rejected-the repressed-is whatever the powerful have decided is of no use at the moment.” He means that music isn’t being appreciated through CDs anymore. Everything is so advanced now that everyone downloads music instead of going to music store and buying it. The CDs and tapes are being less appreciated.

  1. How are the music listening experiences enabled by Forced Exposure different from those that Paul Lamere is working on with platforms like Spotify?

 

2: Music listening experiences from the Forced Exposure are different from listening to Spotify because during the forced exposure listening moments  they had the opportunity to listen to all the music they could and if you wanted to contact the artist there would be a long wait. Fast forward to modern days with Spotify, you can have your music chosen for you. Spotify can direct you to music according to your mood, contacts etc. Spotify has a variety of music and there is no way you can listen to every song on Spotify.

  1. What distinctions does Krukowski draw between being “surprised” by music and “discovering” music? What are the differences between these experiences and according to Krukowski, why are they important?

 

3: When you hear new music you’ve never heard before you are surprised by the things that your hearing. When your surprised its nothing that you expected. On the other hand, when you’re discovering music your expecting what you’re looking for. This is important because you are using these tools to gain more of an understanding to music.

 

Episode 6

  1. According to Krukowski, what is noise? What is signal? Why are these distinctions important?

 

1: Krukowski describes noise as the thing we are listening to in the background. For an example when you’re listening to two things at one time one becomes the signal and one is the noise. The noise being the sound in the background and the signal being the sound that has your attention. Your brain is more focused on the signal while your listening to the noise but not so much.

  1. What central idea about noise does this episode convey? Why is it significant?

 

2: Noise and signal are important to our everyday life. You can hear up to millions of different signals and noises, noises are the sounds you hear in the background. Signal being the sound you’re hearing first and paying the most attention to. Producers and musicians make music with signal being louder sound then the noise.

 

  1. How does this episode relate to other episodes?

 

3:  Episode six was based on noise, which Krukowski described as the unwanted sound in the background.  The author uses podcast to explain to listeners the importance of each episode. Listening to different noises and signals is apart of our everyday life, the author wants us to understand sound noise and signals. Throughout the podcast we listened to him speak about listening and understanding music. Music has noises and signals and that’s how this episode relates to the others.

Discussion Questions 5

1. Real time is lived time, time as we experience it in the analog world. It can change according to the mood we are in. But the digital time is not lived time, it’s machine time. According to Krukowski, digital time makes everything more regular than lived time and it makes us less unified.
2. When he says that listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space, Krukowski meant that listening is the way we understand where we are. We can use the sounds in our space to understand where we are and where we are going.
3. In a public place, anyone who wants can be there, people cannot be banned from there. That’s why Astor places can still be considered as public places. But by putting signs there, like no skateboard, they are limiting people and dictating how people use the space.
4. Since New York is in a nonstop change, it’s very difficult to control the sounds. For this reason, the concert halls were developed to keep the unwanted sounds outside and to allow us to listen to music in the best quality. This is very likely to earbuds and headphones, which are there for the same reason individually.
5. In my opinion, sounds play an important role in determining our experience in our space. Our experience in the same space can easily change if sounds change. We can enjoy the sounds of a city, even the car horns, or we can put our headphones and have a completely different

Discussion questions #5

Ways of Hearing, Episode 1 & 2

Episode 1

What is Krukowski’s main point about how we experience time in the “real” world versus are experiences with “digital” time? Why are these differences significant?

According to Radiotopia First showcase series: “Ways of Hearing” by Krukowski point out a digital audio change our perception and our sense of time. The difference between real-time and digital time. Real-time is our lifetime but the digital audio has digital time. 

What does Krukowski mean when he says that listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space?

Krukowski means when he says that listening has to a lot to do with how we navigate space was about hearing of environmental sounds. When you hear the noise of the crowded street or the sound of a bird or the train that develops our sense of hearing and sense about space. Because of digital sound and headphones, we lost that sense of hearing and block your feeling toward the environmental sounds.    

Episode 2

  • In the interview at the beginning of the episode, Jeremiah Moss argues that developers in Astor Place are “privatizing public space in a very stealth way.” What does he mean by this? What does Moss say about the distinction between public and private space, and why is it important?

Jeremiah moss argues that digital audio controls the singles that we hear in public and made people create their own privet space from public space. That means the music that you hear just sounds in your ear through the headphone but you did not occupy other space. You only hear environmental sounds.   

  • What is the significance of Emily Thompson’s idea that the development of concert halls arose from desires to “control interior spaces”? How is this desire, according to Krukowski, related to earbuds and headphones?

The significance idea of Emily Thompson’s point that the development of concert halls arose from desires to control interior spaces people will be silent to hear and they will be concentrate and they will avoid distraction,  Because of the audience criticize toward what they hear and concentrate on to judge what they listening.      

  • In your own opinion, what are the key ideas from this episode about the relationship between sound and space? What strikes you as interesting about the ways that sound influences our experience of space

The most interesting part was before the experience of hearing from the radio was different because you imagine the situation from hearing you recognize the space, sounds, and situation from your ears and also build your imagination. Before we listen to the serious, drama, movie from the radio and it was more interesting than watching T.V or listen to your headphone. Now the audience wants to void the time or waiting for transportation by using headphones to hear music. My childhood was influenced by the radio because I was living with my grandmother and we used to sleep in the same room the whole night. she turned the radio on the whole night and also when she cooked, that was the valuable moment in my life because I used to listen to a bedtime story on the radio that builds my imagination, but the ability to hear. I remember I used to wake up at 6 o’clock in the morning because of the clock on the radio. There was the kid’s voice that woke me up at 6 o’clock in school days. Technology makes our lives run fast.  

 

 

Ways of Hearing, Episode 1 & 2

Krukowski describes real time as “lived time” and digital time as “machine time.” You can manipulate machine time in ways you cannot manipulate real time, like by speeding it up or slowing it down. Krukowski points out that when media went digital, it changed our way of sharing time together. Previously, everyone would have to tune into the radio at the same time to hear a new song or listen to the baseball game, but now we are able to listen and view at our leisure. This makes us all a little less unified in the way we share experiences. 

Moss mentions the rules now set in Astor Place, and the security guards there to enforce them. The space gives the illusion of being public, for everyone to share. In reality, it is only for certain kinds of people who are acting in a certain manner to share. The privatization dictates how the “public” space gets used.

The further you are from a sound, the harder it is to hear it. Thompson talks about concert halls as a refuge from outdoor sound. They filter out the sounds you don’t want to hear and amplify the sounds you do want to hear. She says that earbuds are an “auditorium without walls,” enabling the listener to hear the sound without noise pollution.

I was supposed to go to a concert in Radio City Music Hall in May, which got postponed due to the pandemic. I’ve been to many venues, but this podcast made me truly excited to visit Radio City. When you go to a concert, you want to be able to hear what is happening on stage just as much as you want to be able to see it. Thompson describes the venue as almost a chamber to reflect the sound of the stage back down to the audience, to try and filter out any other sound there may be. I hadn’t realized how much work goes into perfecting the sound in a venue before listening to this.

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Ways of Hearing, Episode 1 & 2

Episode 1

  1. What is Krukowski’s main point about how we experience time in the “real” world versus are experiences with “digital” time? Why are these differences significant?

-Krukoswski main point, he stated real time is what we experience at that moment And like he stated Real time is lived time and digital is not a lived time were they work like spread sheet, and he stated that digital time can make many people experience at a time, like the audio we were listening to.

  1. What does Krukowski mean when he says that listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space?

– Krukowski stated navigate space basically is sound like daily sounds, can be the loud music people are playing in their car, anything that have an sound that create a great outcome.

Episode 2

  1. In the interview at the beginning of the episode, Jeremiah Moss argues that developers in Astor Place are “privatizing public space in a very stealth way.” What does he mean by this? What does Moss say about the distinction between public and private space, and why is it important?

– He stated how NYC is very crowed and they’re very slow, Knowing that everyone is avoiding each other, they tend to use headphone to block each other verbal sound, and he stated how Japan people tent to sleep on the train so they won’t have eye contacts. Its really important because it shows how people are use to their daily life and they tent to have their own private space, for example on the train everyone is on the phone to avoid everything around them.

  1. What is the significance of Emily Thompson’s idea that the development of concert halls arose from desires to “control interior spaces”? How is this desire, according to Krukowski, related to earbuds and headphones?

-They wanted to control the interior space with different music, knowing that many performers took place their, the people who are there they don’t know what music is going to be played. According to the Audio i I think earbud and earphones is a simple of space and sound which an individual tent to use to control there sound and space because they’re in their own little bubble.

  1. In your own opinion, what are the key ideas from this episode about the relationship between sound and space? What strikes you as interesting about the ways that sound influences our experience of space

– According to this episode the relationship between the sound and space and be really interactive together because people need space but they want to listen to there own sound, trying to avoid everything around them.

Ways of hearing Discussion Question #5

Episode 1 :

D1 : According to Krukowski the time  in “real” World is difficult to back up because once it is happened that is it So he compared it with how the record on tape saying there is no undo and if you had time and money  , you could  try again but we could not back  what is done is done weather it is better or worse . With  digital time everything is previsional , we reshape , rebuild , redone .

D2 :By saying listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space , Krukowski want to let us know  how we are rely on sounds that we hear and has that memory from  where we heard them .

Episode 2

D3 : Saying developers in Astor Place are “privatising  public space in a very stealth way”, Jeremiah Moss means place are cautionary preserved because it is heritage that we have that . The city is moving so fast and it  seems out of control because of wealths willing to take over of all. It is like reducing people how they are going to use the space.

D4 : The development of concert halls arose from desire to “control interior space ” is a kind of controlling the sounds . It is a way of controlling the sound in the street . It is a key way of excluding the noise around people .According to Krukowski, earbuds and headphones will reduce the noise and at the same the wearer hear what h want to hear .

D5 : according to me , the keys ideas from this episode about the relationship between sound and space   are : isolation , control ,admiring .

Discussion #5

EPISODE 1 – TIME

 

  1. Krukowski’s main point about how we experience time in the real world versus in the digital time is that the experiences in the analog world are real, are happening in the moment and you can’t pause it, delete it or try again. We benefit from these conveniences of digital time like communicating with your friends no matter where they are but it comes with a sacrifice, we trade real reactions and face to face talks to texting and latency. Krukowski argues that we give up the opportunity to experience time together in the same instant and therefore we lose the opportunity of sharing our individual timing to one another
  2. When Krukowsi says that listening has a lot to do with how we navigate space he means that we can have an idea of where we are just by listening to the sounds, each place has sounds characteristics to it for example in a church you will hear bells and a minister giving his sermon. We should be more aware of the sounds that surround us and train our ears to detect where we are without sight.

EPISODE 2 – SPACE

  1.  Jeremiah Moss argues that developers in Astor Place are privatizing public space in a very stealth way. When he says that the city is suffering a hyper gentrification he means that some streets and neighborhoods are being changed slowly, being stealth privatized, he puts the example of Astor Place it’s still a public place but you can see security guards walking around and not skating signs, Moss defines a public place as a place where people can do whatever they want to like make protests or somewhere where people can express themselves without having to follow rules set by private companies. He argues that when you are walking looking at a screen you are creating a private bubble for moving through public space, so you can not realize the encroaching of public spaces, people are not paying attention to the changes in their surroundings.
  2. In the 1920’s when the cities were starting to modernize, noisy engines, vehicles everywhere, trains and subways running through the cities made it difficult for people who were not used to it. Emily Thompson’s argues that the efforts to control sound in the streets lead to another set of changes to control interior spaces as are concert halls with noise-insulating walls and architecture to reduce reverberation so the people can fully enjoy the concerts without interferences from outside. According to Krukowsi we are using interior sound to create a refugee as in the 1920’s and our digital devices have extended that interior space into the street that mean that with headphones we can listen to whatever we want in any space.
  3. Sometimes we are not aware of the changing environment, because we are immersed in our devices like phones and earphones, we look at the screen almost all the time and have our earphones all the time avoiding exterior sounds to interference. Hearing helps us to navigate space, certain sounds gives a place characteristics that makes it unique, often in the big cities sounds like sirens, traffic is annoying so people prefer to be listening to music. With electronic devices we create a private bubble for ourselves not letting sounds and public spaces interfere with your thoughts, this leads to not realizing the changes and the elements in a public space.

sorry for posting this late but the first half of the week is busy for me